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Check out the <a href=\"https://make.wordpress.org/core/handbook/\">Core Contributor Handbook</a>.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Props to </em><a class=\"mention\" href=\"https://profiles.wordpress.org/audrasjb/\"><span class=\"mentions-prefix\">@</span>audrasjb</a>, <a class=\"mention\" href=\"https://profiles.wordpress.org/davidbaumwald/\"><span class=\"mentions-prefix\">@</span>davidbaumwald</a>, <a class=\"mention\" href=\"https://profiles.wordpress.org/westonruter/\"><span class=\"mentions-prefix\">@</span>westonruter</a>, <a class=\"mention\" href=\"https://profiles.wordpress.org/jeffpaul/\"><span class=\"mentions-prefix\">@</span>jeffpaul</a>, <a class=\"mention\" href=\"https://profiles.wordpress.org/presskopp/\"><span class=\"mentions-prefix\">@</span>presskopp</a><em> for proofreading.</em></p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"></p>\";s:7:\"attribs\";a:0:{}s:8:\"xml_base\";s:0:\"\";s:17:\"xml_base_explicit\";b:0;s:8:\"xml_lang\";s:0:\"\";}}s:7:\"pubDate\";a:1:{i:0;a:5:{s:4:\"data\";s:31:\"Tue, 03 Feb 2026 18:07:31 +0000\";s:7:\"attribs\";a:0:{}s:8:\"xml_base\";s:0:\"\";s:17:\"xml_base_explicit\";b:0;s:8:\"xml_lang\";s:0:\"\";}}}s:32:\"http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/\";a:1:{s:7:\"creator\";a:1:{i:0;a:5:{s:4:\"data\";s:12:\"Aaron Jorbin\";s:7:\"attribs\";a:0:{}s:8:\"xml_base\";s:0:\"\";s:17:\"xml_base_explicit\";b:0;s:8:\"xml_lang\";s:0:\"\";}}}}}i:43;a:6:{s:4:\"data\";s:21:\"\n	\n	\n	\n	\n	\n	\n	\n	\n	\n	\n\";s:7:\"attribs\";a:0:{}s:8:\"xml_base\";s:0:\"\";s:17:\"xml_base_explicit\";b:0;s:8:\"xml_lang\";s:0:\"\";s:5:\"child\";a:2:{s:0:\"\";a:5:{s:5:\"title\";a:1:{i:0;a:5:{s:4:\"data\";s:63:\"Jonathan Desrosiers: Offering Criticism in Open Source Projects\";s:7:\"attribs\";a:0:{}s:8:\"xml_base\";s:0:\"\";s:17:\"xml_base_explicit\";b:0;s:8:\"xml_lang\";s:0:\"\";}}s:4:\"guid\";a:1:{i:0;a:5:{s:4:\"data\";s:38:\"https://jonathandesrosiers.com/?p=9966\";s:7:\"attribs\";a:0:{}s:8:\"xml_base\";s:0:\"\";s:17:\"xml_base_explicit\";b:0;s:8:\"xml_lang\";s:0:\"\";}}s:4:\"link\";a:1:{i:0;a:5:{s:4:\"data\";s:82:\"https://jonathandesrosiers.com/2026/02/offering-criticism-in-open-source-projects/\";s:7:\"attribs\";a:0:{}s:8:\"xml_base\";s:0:\"\";s:17:\"xml_base_explicit\";b:0;s:8:\"xml_lang\";s:0:\"\";}}s:11:\"description\";a:1:{i:0;a:5:{s:4:\"data\";s:33210:\"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A <a href=\"https://crossword.fm/s10/e10/\">recent episode</a> of the <a href=\"https://crossword.fm/\">Crossword podcast</a> had me thinking about offering criticism constructively in open source projects. <a href=\"https://jonathanwold.com/\">Jonathan Wold</a> and <a href=\"https://carb.is/\">Luke Carbis</a> were discussing the <a href=\"https://wordpress.org/download/releases/6-9/\">new Notes feature in WordPress 6.9</a>, which was added as a building block for real-time collaboration.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Luke mentioned how he was curious about the reasoning behind the related technical decisions. He was having some difficulties and was a bit concerned about the choice to use the preexisting Comments APIs with a new comment type to build out the Notes feature. The part of this conversation that I really found interesting was when they discussed how it was unfair to the contributors who did work on the feature for him to complain or criticize without knowing the full background of why it was built in the way that it was.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;ve heavily condensed and paraphrased, so I definitely recommend giving the episode a full listen.</p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n\n</div></figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This premise stuck with me and sent me down several rabbit holes, each one leading to a different dynamic within open source communities. When is it acceptable to be critical in open source? Is it fair to offer criticism when you don&#8217;t have all of the information? If so, what is the right way to go about sharing? Who is allowed to criticize? When is it appropriate to solely observe rather than attempt to participate? How do you transition from an observer to a participant? Let&#8217;s dig into these questions a bit more.</p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-who-can-contribute\">Who Can Contribute?</h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The simple answer to this question is anyone and everyone, of course! It is open source after all! But don’t stop reading because it’s not <em>actually</em> that simple.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While everyone <em>can</em> participate, there are so many forces at play that impact <em>how</em> you should contribute. Knowing what these are, understanding them, and being able to recognize them can help make your open source journey a more successful and rewarding one.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I won&#8217;t be covering contributing from the perspective of specific disciplines (ie. code, documentation, testing, etc.), or even different ways of contributing (ie. financial, time-based, etc.). Instead I&#8217;m looking to define two broad &#8220;states&#8221; of contributing, how to move back and forth between these two groups, and how to communicate better so that everyone feels welcome to contribute.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">First let&#8217;s establish what these two groups of contributors are.</p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full wp-lightbox-container\"><img alt=\"An empty auditorium in a university is furnished with wooden chairs that have blue cushions. The chairs are neatly arranged in rows, facing a stage or a podium that is not visible in the frame. The room is empty of people, and the lighting is relatively bright, daytime or artificial lighting. The overall atmosphere of the scene is academy.\" class=\"wp-image-10599 not-transparent\" height=\"3333\" src=\"https://jonathandesrosiers.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/570645e40a6435bc2.81819652.jpg\" width=\"5000\" /><button class=\"lightbox-trigger\" type=\"button\">\n			<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"12\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\" width=\"12\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n				<path d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" fill=\"#fff\">\n			</svg>\n		</button><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/\">CC0</a> licensed <a href=\"https://wordpress.org/photos/photo/570645e40a/\">photo</a> by <a href=\"https://blazejzablotny.pl/\">Blazej Zablotny</a> from the <a href=\"https://wordpress.org/photos/\">WordPress Photo Directory</a>.</figcaption></figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-passive-contributing\">Passive Contributing</h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Whether they know it or not, every single user and consumer of an open source project contributes back in some way.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When you use a piece of software (whether it’s open source or not), you are using your voice (and in some cases, your wallet) to communicate that the software is valuable to you. “This piece of software solves a problem that I have.” Over time, continued usage turns into a second layer of feedback. “This piece of software continues to solve a problem that I have well enough to continue using it.”</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I like to think of this as &#8220;passive contributing&#8221; because it happens naturally through the normal use of software without any additional level of effort required. The examples I gave above are the most simple and pure examples of passive contribution and may not seem that useful. But passive contributions can be quite significant at scale.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Every WordPress site checks if there are available updates for plugins, themes, and Core itself every 12 hours. However, a few details are needed to ensure an accurate answer is given, such as the version of WordPress the site is currently running, the site&#8217;s PHP and database versions, the PHP extensions loaded, etc..</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now consider this happening across tens of millions of WordPress sites. This becomes <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observability_(software)#Telemetry_types\">metric-based telemetry</a> and the data helps paint a <a href=\"https://wordpress.org/about/stats/\">larger picture of what the &#8220;typical&#8221; environment is for a WordPress site</a>. This data allows contributors to make well-informed decisions about the software itself. What should the <a href=\"https://make.wordpress.org/core/2026/01/09/dropping-support-for-php-7-2-and-7-3/\">minimum required version of PHP be</a>? Should a <a href=\"https://make.wordpress.org/core/2019/10/15/php-native-json-extension-now-required/\">native PHP extension be required to run WordPress</a>?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Understanding the actual real-world state is essential before making certain changes, especially in a project so staunchly committed to backward compatibility such as WordPress.</p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-untapped-potential\">Untapped Potential</h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In many ways, this group is the most exciting one in open source. There is so much potential to tap into! One thing that I&#8217;ve learned is that you never know what will inspire someone or how they will discover contributing. This is just one compelling reason to <a href=\"https://producingoss.com/en/producingoss.html#be-open-from-day-one\">underscore the importance of working in the open</a>.</p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" />\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote alignwide has-text-align-center is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"is-style-text-title is-style-text-title--1 wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Each interaction with a user is an opportunity to get a new participant.&#8221;</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https://producingoss.com/en/managing-participants.html#users-to-participants\">Producing Open Source Software</a> &#8211; Carl Fogel</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" />\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As maintainers of open source, we need to consider this group as much as possible. Since most passive contributors are simply users, the <a href=\"https://wordpress.org/about/philosophy/\">user-focused philosophies</a> of the WordPress project help to keep this group front of mind.</p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full wp-lightbox-container\"><img alt=\"A man in a white shirt and black backpack leans against a chrome railing inside a building while looking at his phone. The man appears relaxed, with his weight resting on one leg and his other foot crossed over it. 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These contributors are the backbone of every open source software project. They&#8217;re intentionally spending their time filing bug reports, building out new features and APIs, reviewing patches, translating strings, writing documentation, and so much more.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In an ideal world, many more passive contributors are activated than the number of active ones who leave a project to ensure growth. But be warned, if you&#8217;re ill-prepared to support newly activated contributors, they can <a href=\"https://jonathandesrosiers.com/2025/07/the-ghosts-of-unactivated-contributors/\">easily become ghosts that quietly haunt the halls of your project</a>.</p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"is-style-default wp-block-separator alignwide has-alpha-channel-opacity\" />\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-some-additional-considerations\">Some Additional Considerations</h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I tried to clearly define these two buckets to encompass everyone. But like the question of &#8220;who can contribute?&#8221;, there is additional nuance to be aware of.</p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-awareness-of-passivity\">Awareness Of Passivity</h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One important thing to note is that individuals may not even be aware of the fact that they are passively contributing. Some (likely most) have no idea about what contributing is or how it works. In other cases, someone can be aware and intentionally choose to remain passive.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This was the case with Luke and the concerns he expressed about the implementation of the Notes feature. He is familiar enough with open source communities to understand that <a href=\"https://maintaine.rs/desrosj#the-value-of-presence\">decisions are made by those who show up</a>, but was also self-aware enough to recognize he was not properly prepared to engage. He intentionally chose to remain passive until he felt he had enough context to engage thoughtfully (which <a href=\"https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/64377\">he has since</a>).</p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" />\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote alignwide has-text-align-center is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By participating in discussions, contributing code, submitting bug reports or feature requests, or testing proposed changes, any individual can influence the direction of an Open Source project. By showing up, you ensure that your voice will be heard. But be aware, with presence comes responsibility. Showing up means being prepared, doing research, actively listening, and being thoughtful in your communication.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https://maintaine.rs/desrosj#the-value-of-presence\">Maintainers in the WordPress Project</a> &#8211; <a href=\"https://maintaine.rs/\">maintaine.rs</a> &#8211; Jonathan Desrosiers</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" />\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As contributors gain experience, they&#8217;re often active in some ways and passive in others. For example, someone who spends their time creating patches is still contributing by passing the PHP version their site is using when sending update requests. Contributors also tend to find the areas of a code base that they enjoy working the most and to focus their efforts there. When this happens they choose to be passive for the rest of the code.</p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-transitioning-unknowingly\">Transitioning Unknowingly</h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s also common for someone to be completely unaware of the fact that they have &#8220;activated&#8221;. Let&#8217;s say you are experiencing a problem with your site and open a support ticket. On the surface it may seem like you are just seeking help with the issue that&#8217;s affecting your site. But it&#8217;s actually pretty common that support requests are the first sign of a larger bug or edge case affecting many users.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is a great opportunity to help them recognize that they&#8217;re contributing. &#8220;Thank you for taking the time to create this report!&#8221; Be transparent about the process and answer any questions they have. Where can they follow along with the process? What is the process? And continue to engage with this person throughout the lifecycle of the report.</p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">&#8220;This seems to be due to X and as a result Y happens.&#8221; &#8211; Explain the concept behind what&#8217;s going on to pique their interest.</li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">&#8220;It&#8217;s likely that any site using feature Z is experiencing this.&#8221; &#8211; Shows them the importance of their report. It&#8217;s not just you, and you&#8217;ve helped the software improve for many other users.</li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">&#8220;There is a fix available in the form of a patch/hotfix plugin/nightly build. Would you be able to test using that to confirm the issue is resolved for you?&#8221; &#8211; Bring them along on the journey and show them how the sausage is made.</li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">&#8220;Thanks again for the report and helping to improve PROJECT.&#8221;  &#8211; Their time was valuable and the result was meaningful.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you spend any time talking to contributors, you&#8217;ll find that this is a <em>very</em> common path for discovering how to contribute to open source. Make this second nature and weave it into the culture of your project to ensure that no opportunity to grow the contributor base is missed.</p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-a-healthy-balance\">A Healthy Balance</h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Even when maintainers have invested a considerable amount of time and effort into creating forms of passive contribution, <strong>passive contribution has a very low ceiling and will never sustain a project by itself</strong>.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In education there is a metric called the <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student%E2%80%93teacher_ratio\">student-teacher ratio</a>, which is a way to estimate the number of students per teacher in each classroom within a school. Though it doesn&#8217;t always work out this way, the idea is that a lower student-teacher ratio will result in a higher quality education.</p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" />\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote alignwide has-text-align-center is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Classes with too many students are often disruptive to education. Also, too many students in a class results in a diverse field of students, with varying degrees of learning ability. Consequently, the class will spend time for less academic students to assimilate the information, when that time could be better spent progressing through the curriculum. In this way, student–teacher ratios are compelling arguments for advanced or honors classes.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student%E2%80%93teacher_ratio\">Student-teacher ratio &#8211; Wikipedia</a></p>\n</blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" />\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are several variations of this concept at play within open source.</p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">The ratio of users to contributors.</li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">The ratio of active to passive contributors.</li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">The ratio of active contributors to those <em>trying</em> to become more involved (seeking mentorship).</li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">The ratio of mentors who are actually <em>available</em> to those seeking to be mentored.</li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">The ratio of contributors who have write access (Core Committers) to those who don&#8217;t.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large wp-lightbox-container\"><img alt=\"Rockhounding and colorful rocks on a southern Oregon beach.\" class=\"wp-image-10601 not-transparent\" height=\"576\" src=\"https://jonathandesrosiers.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/41964067404569fe1.10957269-1024x576.jpg\" width=\"1024\" /><button class=\"lightbox-trigger\" type=\"button\">\n			<svg fill=\"none\" height=\"12\" viewBox=\"0 0 12 12\" width=\"12\" xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg\">\n				<path d=\"M2 0a2 2 0 0 0-2 2v2h1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 1 .5-.5h2V0H2Zm2 10.5H2a.5.5 0 0 1-.5-.5V8H0v2a2 2 0 0 0 2 2h2v-1.5ZM8 12v-1.5h2a.5.5 0 0 0 .5-.5V8H12v2a2 2 0 0 1-2 2H8Zm2-12a2 2 0 0 1 2 2v2h-1.5V2a.5.5 0 0 0-.5-.5H8V0h2Z\" fill=\"#fff\">\n			</svg>\n		</button><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><a href=\"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/\">CC0</a> licensed <a href=\"https://wordpress.org/photos/photo/4196406740/\">photo</a> by <a href=\"https://jenniferbourn.com/\">Jennifer Bourn</a> from the <a href=\"https://wordpress.org/photos/\">WordPress Photo Directory</a>.</figcaption></figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Each of these ratios could help shine a light on an area of a project that is struggling. Just like there&#8217;s no widely accepted student-teacher ratio that every school should strive for, there&#8217;s no one-size-fits-all formula for the ideal ratio of each of these. It&#8217;s safe to say that the actual ratio is often nowhere close to an appropriate level. Unfortunately, this often results in maintainer burnout.</p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-equal-opportunity-vs-equal-outcome\">Equal Opportunity vs. Equal Outcome</h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Open source is at its best when opportunity is equal, but not necessarily contributions or outcomes. Every contribution is different, and that’s a <em>good</em> thing. But when everyone has the same opportunity to contribute, the number of participants will increase along with the diversity of experience, knowledge, and thought. 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After all, that&#8217;s what open source is all about: a chance to participate.</p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-encouraging-a-fluid-state\">Encouraging A Fluid State</h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https://www.selectsoftwarereviews.com/blog/employee-retention-statistics#strongstatistics-on-the-cost-of-employee-turnoverstrong\">Many studies have found</a> that the cost of replacing an employee could cost upwards of 300% <em>more</em> than the previous employee&#8217;s salary. This includes the cost to terminate the employee, recruitment, hiring, on-boarding, lost opportunity while the position is vacant, and the loss of productivity as the new hire goes through a learning curve.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Consider this concept in the context of open source. The majority of OSS projects barely have enough resources to keep things running smoothly. 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You know, they&#8217;ve decided that, okay, life is fine, I like my local environment or what have you.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What are like the key benefits, if you know what I mean? If you were to advertise this lifestyle to our audience, so we&#8217;ll do this in two parts. Let&#8217;s do the benefits first and then we&#8217;ll do the drawbacks later. What are the key things which you look at in your life at the moment and think, I&#8217;m so grateful for that? What are they?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:12:57] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> Freedom. Absolutely the freedom. I mean, we&#8217;re going to talk about drawbacks in a minute, so that&#8217;s going to get balanced out. But it is the freedom. It&#8217;s the ability to say, it&#8217;s getting cold in the south of Australia, remembering we&#8217;re in the southern hemisphere. So, I actually have to say that because people like, it&#8217;s hot in the south. No, it&#8217;s cold in the south. So as the winter months come and it gets colder, we migrate north. So I can literally say, no, it&#8217;s too cold here, I&#8217;m going to go north. Going to go to Queensland and spend winter in Queensland. It still gets cold, but not as cold as it does in the south. So you&#8217;ve got that ability.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I guess one of the biggest benefits is my dad is, he&#8217;s in his late seventies and I get to travel with dad. Dad&#8217;s traveled for many, many years and he still is. But I get to travel with dad. I get to spend these years with my dad. There&#8217;s not many people that can say they get to spend this sort of time, and this quality time, with their parents at this stage of life, because life gets in our way. But we make it work.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We will, once a week, arrange to go and do something. He&#8217;ll come and knock on the door and say, you are working too hard. I&#8217;m like, I&#8217;m working, go away, leave me alone. But then it&#8217;ll be, okay, yes, you&#8217;re right. I&#8217;m working too hard, so why don&#8217;t I take this morning off and we go and visit this place where we are staying. Go and find a touristy place or a bush walk to do, or go for a swim in the sea, or go and do something together so I can spend time with my dad. If the family needs me to be somewhere, I can be there, generally.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I also just to sort of pad this out a little, I also house sit while I&#8217;m doing it. So sometimes I&#8217;ll get to a place, someone will be advertising, we need a house sitter. We need someone to come and live in the house, or live at the house, for a couple of weeks while we&#8217;re away. So I&#8217;ll go and house sit for them, and I get another experience in all of that. So that&#8217;s the benefits. It&#8217;s just that flexibility. I would be doing exactly what I&#8217;m doing, but I would be stuck in a house. I&#8217;d be stuck in a room, in a house, grinding. I can grind and be in some of the most beautiful places in the country.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:15:02] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Do you know, it&#8217;s so curious because I&#8217;m imagining there&#8217;s a proportion of the people listening to this who are just so in awe of that description. You know, oh gosh, you can really spend the time in the locations that you wish. I&#8217;m imagining there&#8217;ll also be other people who think, no, that&#8217;s not what I want at all. But I&#8217;ve got to say, I&#8217;m really drawn to what you&#8217;re saying. The idea of being able to go and, I don&#8217;t know, work with a spectacular view. Or work in a particular city for a period of time, and then go somewhere slightly more rural. In other words, it&#8217;s not the same view that you get every day when you wake up. There&#8217;s that variety in life which, certainly for me, there&#8217;s a lot of appeal there. Okay, let&#8217;s do the drawbacks. What are the downsides?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:15:44] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> The downsize is I live in a car. Literally, I live in a little camper van. My workspace is probably, because I fitted out a little commercial vehicle, a little commercial van as my van and as, you know, as my income improves, my savings improve, I will probably upgrade it. But my workspace is probably a metre by a metre. It&#8217;s not very big. And when I finish up for the day, I&#8217;ve got to pack everything up so I&#8217;ve got room for relaxation. I can&#8217;t sort of just walk out of a room, shut the door and say, well, that&#8217;s work done.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, work&#8217;s done for me, I&#8217;ve got to pack everything up, I&#8217;ve got to put everything away. You are living on the road, so you don&#8217;t have all of your stuff. And I&#8217;m going to put stuff in double quotes, they&#8217;re in inverted commas. You learn very quickly what is important to you, and what is necessary, and you have what is necessary. And then you have a few of those things that you go, these are really important to me and I&#8217;m not going to give them up.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So it is not like you can say, oh, I&#8217;ve got that plate that is really good for this entertaining thing, and go to a cupboard and pull that plate out that you use maybe once a year. No, you don&#8217;t have that. You&#8217;ve got the plates that you use every day.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:16:50] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah. The plates.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:16:52] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> Yeah, well, I travel on my own. I could literally live with one plate, one cup, one bowl, knife and fork. You are trading off that flexibility of having a house where you can have things stored, and all of storage space. You really have to think about what it is you want. I have a rule. I literally have a rule and I think everyone should live with this rule anyway. I have to have needed it four times before I go and buy it. If I haven&#8217;t needed it four times, then I&#8217;m not going to buy it. If I look at something, I go, oh, that&#8217;d be really cool and it&#8217;d be really convenient. Then I go, but would I use it? Have I needed it four times? Have I needed the functionality that gives me four times? No, don&#8217;t buy it. Because where the hell am I going to put it?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:17:37] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, and I guess whatever you&#8217;re buying, you have to buy the tiny version of it as well. You can&#8217;t get the sort of jumbo version of whatever it is.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:17:44] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> There&#8217;s your other trade off is you can&#8217;t buy food in bulk. Like, I used to go and buy several cans of food and put them in the cupboard. Whether I used them or not immediately, there would be several cans of the same thing in the cupboard just in case I needed it. And if it was sort of, oh, I&#8217;m down to the last can, I&#8217;ll go and buy a few more. Well, now I&#8217;m down to buying two or three cans at a time. And once I&#8217;ve run those out, I&#8217;ve got to go and find the nearest shop and go and buy another one just to sort of keep it topped up.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You&#8217;re not buying in bulk, you&#8217;re not buying your meat, you&#8217;re not buying your fruit veg in bulk. Does that matter? No, because when you get to certain places, you normally find the local providers, you normally find the local fruit seller or the local fruit and veg shop, and go and buy there. You go and support the local community, and you pick up a few things there and, yep, that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re going to use. That&#8217;s what we do.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:18:31] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Just to interrupt there, Charly, do you try to spend a significant portion of time in a particular place so that rather than just sort of driving through it, I guess, and spending a couple of days here and a couple of days there, do you spend significant amounts of time there, and therefore begin to have some feeling of what that community is like?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I guess the underpinnings of that question really is, how do you get that sort of human interaction that so many people think is important? Because clearly you are meeting fresh people every day, and you probably don&#8217;t get the chance to form those roots and what have you. So there&#8217;s a lot there. But do you know what I mean? Do you try to sort of spend a bit of time so that you gather some of those human connections along the way?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:19:12] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> Okay, so there&#8217;s a couple of things there that you&#8217;ve touched on. On my way to a location, I may only spend a day in a location, as I&#8217;m heading to a final destination or the next stop along the way. When I get to that next stop along the way, I do try to spend a bit of time, because I like to put my roots down. I like to be able to just settle on in, be able to work for really long periods and not have to worry about, oh, I&#8217;ve got to pack everything up and be on the road again. I&#8217;ve worked for three days, now I&#8217;ve got to spend the next two or three hours packing everything up so I can get on the road and drive for another couple of hours. Yes, I know English people are going to say, couple of hours driving, you&#8217;d be across the country.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We&#8217;d spend a couple of hours driving and then you get to the other end and you&#8217;ve got to set it up. So you&#8217;re losing a day when you&#8217;re doing that. So my preference is when I get to where I want to be, getting my feet down and staying there for a couple of weeks if I can. And then from there, I use that as a base of, okay, what is within a hundred kilometers that I can go and visit, and do the site seeing, and do the local colour, and make that a hub for my activities.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You then asked about human interaction and honestly, I think I&#8217;m a little different to people. I don&#8217;t need it as much as others. I am really, really quite happy to just be in my sphere. I&#8217;ve got my online connections. If I need to speak to someone, I&#8217;ve normally got someone on the other, on Discord, or one of the chat programs that I can chat to. And then if I feel like I&#8217;m getting to that stir crazy point, you go to the local pub or you go to the local cafe and you sort of sit around and you have a chat to the locals.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That fills that need for me. I&#8217;m not a person who is, it sounds terrible, I&#8217;m actually really good in a public environment, but it drains me. So I really, once that&#8217;s done, I&#8217;m done for a couple of days and I can just go sit in nature and not worry about it.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:20:58] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, I think everybody can totally see that. There&#8217;s just so many different personality types, isn&#8217;t there? I can identify exactly with what you&#8217;re saying. I can go for extended periods of time, and not really require that human interaction. And then occasionally I sort of crave it, and so I satisfy it and go and meet people and hang out with all sorts of different people.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And so I guess really that is the piece that you would need to examine in your own life. Because if you were going to go nomadic, for want of a better word, you&#8217;ve got to really understand that bit. What is your need? On what level do you need to be with other people and interact with other people? Because that&#8217;s really the fulcrum around what makes this whole thing possible.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Speaking of what makes the whole thing possible, I&#8217;m interested to delve into the tech a little bit. Because you mentioned this sort of one metre square, and the fact that you&#8217;ve got to pack things away and what have you. I&#8217;m curious as to what technology do you have which enables this? Ignoring the vehicle and all that, I&#8217;m just trying to imagine what you might put in your shopping cart. If you were telling somebody this digital nomad life was available, what would be the requirements to make that happen?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:22:01] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> So I&#8217;m doing this with my laptop computer. Now, I buy as top of the range as I can when I buy, and it lasts me for years. So I&#8217;ve got, I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re familiar with them, I have an MSI gaming computer, because it&#8217;s got the extra fans in it. So it really, really works well when you&#8217;re doing a lot of processor intensive stuff. So it&#8217;s not just for gaming, because I do a bit of graphic design and I do a bit of this and I do a bit of that. So the extra fans make the world a difference.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I&#8217;ve got an MSI gaming computer, or an MSI computer. I have an external microphone. I&#8217;ve actually just recently bought an external webcam. I was using the webcam on the computer. It was perfectly fine. I&#8217;ve changed my setup to where I now have an external monitor mounted on the wall in my van. So when I settle in, I pull my 21 inch monitor out and I plug my computer into it and I&#8217;ve got this beautiful big monitor. I&#8217;ve got my external keyboard, and I&#8217;ve got my mouse.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:22:56] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Okay. I mean it&#8217;s the bare essentials, isn&#8217;t it? I think we can all understand that. And then I think you mentioned the internet connectivity bit, which I suppose is also a crucial part of the tech. Because where I am, it&#8217;s a landline. I obviously have, you know, I&#8217;ve got a mobile phone, so there&#8217;s the cell signal, which will allow me to roam within Europe and North America and what have you, but there&#8217;s all the cost and everything associated with that. Where you go, I think it&#8217;s fair to say that you would quickly lose all manner of possibilities because the reception in Australia, you said is not that great in terms of the internet. So how do you overcome that? I think you said Starlink.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:23:30] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> Yes, Starlink. I kind of looked into it for a very long time. I was relying on our mobile data and using my phone as a hot link. But in Australia, I was joking with you about it when we started this call, I&#8217;m on the NBN here. And if anyone knows anything about the NBN, you&#8217;ll know that most Australians hate the NBN. It&#8217;s terrible. If it works, you&#8217;ve got to consider yourself lucky.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s great if you are in a capital city, but you go a hundred kilometers, and I&#8217;m being a little flippant when I say that, but I&#8217;m not too far wrong. Go a hundred kilometers away from a regional center and you&#8217;ve got nothing. There&#8217;s no radio signal. By radio signal, I mean mobile signal. You can&#8217;t make phone calls. You&#8217;ve got that little, there is no signal icon on your phone. You can&#8217;t actually get a connection. I say a hundred kilometers, maybe it&#8217;s 200, maybe it&#8217;s 250, but that&#8217;s not a very long way in Australia. It really isn&#8217;t.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I bought Starlink. I spoke to someone who was traveling along the way. And I actually want to come back to just the nomadic lifestyle when we&#8217;re done here, Nathan. And I met someone while they were traveling. They said, oh, Starlink, it&#8217;s wonderful. And it was still relatively new at the time. I&#8217;m like, oh, really? Are you sure? And he explained it to me like, oh. So when I got the car, I went and bought myself the Starlink and it&#8217;s fantastic.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Oh my goodness, it&#8217;s so good. You&#8217;ve got to have power because the routers take power. You can just get, you know, one of the, I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve got them there, the power stations, the USB power station that you charge up and you can run all your devices off it for a couple of hours. You could do that. I&#8217;ve seen people run them off of just car batteries with the clamps on the battery terminals. I&#8217;m an Australian, this is pretty normal.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So you&#8217;ve got to have the power for the router, to run the router. That then powers the dish and you&#8217;ve basically got, in inverted commas, uninterruptable internet for as long as your power lasts. For as long as you&#8217;ve got power, you&#8217;ve got uninterruptable internet. I have found where I&#8217;ve been, I house sat for my sister-in-law during winter, and her internet was terrible. So I went and got my Starlink out and threw it up and connected to it, and I had better internet. The connection speed on the internet on the Starlink versus her landline connection was like 10 times. I had 10 times better internet connection using Starlink than I did on a landline.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:25:50] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> With the Starlink technology, do you have to, so I really am ignorant of this. I mean I know it&#8217;s to do with satellites, and I know that you can have it bolted onto the side of your house, I guess if you live in a rural area where there is no regular landline. But yours is this sort of peripatetic, mobile version of that.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Firstly, do you have to point it at a particular part of the sky? Do you have to spend time lining it up or do you just have to, just plonk it in daylight? So you know, outside basically? And is it bulky, or is it the kind of stuff that you could throw in a backpack if you were nomadic in that sense? You know, you didn&#8217;t have wheels, you didn&#8217;t have a vehicle, you were just sort of backpacking around. So two things. Where do you have to point it and is it big?</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:26:27] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> Okay. You asked some really great questions. I&#8217;m just going to say they are really, really inspired questions. The first thing I want to say is that the stuff that you see bolted onto the side of a house is typically the stuff that we would use when we&#8217;re out mobile. It&#8217;s the same hardware. They&#8217;ve just got mounting technology, or mounting systems, that will allow you to mount it to the house.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Quick story before I answer the second question about how big is it and all the rest of it. I had a version 2 Starlink, which, it would now be five or six years old, and it&#8217;s got a pole and it&#8217;s got the dish on it. And the dish is, I say dish, it&#8217;s a rectangular panel and you&#8217;ve got put it on a base so that it&#8217;s stable. That&#8217;s heavier than the version three. I had that last week, the week before I had a problem with it and I was a bit concerned. So I contacted Starlink and I said, listen, it&#8217;s doing this, here&#8217;s all my, being a tech I had all the diagnostics and stuff I&#8217;d done and I laid it all out and I said, and I just really want to say that I&#8217;m a little concerned. Because I&#8217;m traveling and I&#8217;m often outside of mobile range, I don&#8217;t want to get outside of mobile range, put my Starlink on and have it fail. I&#8217;m concerned that I&#8217;ve got an intermittent fault that is going to be a problem.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And they said, no worries, we&#8217;ll send you a version 3, no charge. Because I&#8217;ve been with Starlink now, probably two, two and a half, no, two years now. And they just sent me the new hardware. So I&#8217;ve just upgraded to the version 3. So I can actually talk about both. So the version two is a little bigger. You&#8217;re probably talking, I&#8217;m just holding my hands up. It&#8217;s probably about 40 centimeters wide and 70 centimeters tall, the panel. It&#8217;s only 10 mil, five centimeters deep, I guess.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:06] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> It&#8217;s like the sort of size of a modestly big laptop screen. Something along those lines.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:13] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> Actually, it would be about the same size as my, I&#8217;m just looking at, it would be a little larger than my computer here. And I&#8217;ve got a 21, is this the 15? No, this is a 17 inch. This is a 17 inch monitor. So I&#8217;ve got a 17 inch laptop.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:24] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, so we&#8217;re in the order of, got my hands out and I&#8217;m imagining how big that is. It certainly answers my backpacking question anyway.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:28:32] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> Well, let me answer that question for you in a different way. There is now actually what they call a Starlink Mini, which is designed for backpacks. It&#8217;s designed to fit inside a backpack. It&#8217;s got a portable power supply so that you can go hiking, you can go backpacking and take your Starlink with you. I don&#8217;t know a lot about it. I do know that the plan that you put it on is a little different to what you would put our plans on, the plans you would use for ours, because it&#8217;s designed for you to be really, really mobile, not just mobile like we are. And it&#8217;s really light. It&#8217;s designed for a backpack.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So that answers that question as well as like, you&#8217;ve got the technology. The version 3, and I wanted you to say this, the version 3 would probably be half as light as the version 2. So it&#8217;s much lighter. And one of the things that I really liked about the way this all works is that they&#8217;ve got ground mounts, right? So you just put them down on the ground, which is going to answer your next question. Do you need to position it? No. You just put it out. You&#8217;ve got to make sure it&#8217;s got a clear view of the sky. You&#8217;ve got to make sure that there&#8217;s no real obstructions, and that means no trees, no buildings. So nothing that&#8217;s going to sort of overshadow it as the satellites go over. And it will find the satellites for you. You don&#8217;t have to do anything. You just hit the button and it just works.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:29:45] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Miraculous really when you think about it. I mean, actually think about it. You&#8217;ve got this box that you just plonk out under the stars somewhere, and a bunch of, I mean, I&#8217;m just actually thinking about what I&#8217;m about to say, and it is ridiculous. There&#8217;s a bunch of satellites, so they had to go into space, moving around the planet. And they connect to the little box somehow send TCP IP packets all over the place, literally off the planet, which then get bounced down somewhere and, you know, end up in this case talking to me. Insane that any of that works.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:30:19] <strong>Charly Leetham:</strong> So let me just add to that, at faster speeds than your standard internet will give you in Australia. I don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like in the US, I don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like in Britain, the UK, but it&#8217;s faster and more stable speeds than you get in Australia in general.</p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">[00:30:36] <strong>Nathan Wrigley:</strong> Yeah, I actually, so it&#8217;s probably about six months ago I looked at Starlink. I&#8217;ve never seriously looked at it. I&#8217;m always just curious about it so I&#8217;ve ended up on the Starlink website. 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